Randal and the QFG PCBs.

elektro80 · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Randal and the QFG PCBs.

This is taking months. Did he in fact take the money in advance? Shocked

I appreciate Bill stepping in. The members gotta know that we are aware what is going on.

blue hell · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject:

Yes I agree, thought it to be an OK move by Bill.

State Machine · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject:

Guys, thanks for the support. I had to make some sort of move. I did not want to inflame the situation but instead, bring about some answers. Randel does not strike me as being a hothead or anything so lets hope he posts with a reasonable explanation other then "any day now" or some bullshit like that ... Very Happy

I am sure he will post several paragraphs though ... Lets sit back and see what unfolds fellas ....... I am sure we will see posts from the others like "hey, yes, where ARE my boards, I paid you weeks ago ..... etc etc ......"

Chat more,
Bill

blue hell · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:41 pm Post subject:

Thomas Henry · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject:

I almost posted a message myself several days ago, and then canned it. I'm glad Bill stepped in. Since my name is loosely associated with this project, I sure don't my reputation besmirched, which is why I almost stepped forward. But then I figured someone else was bound to comment on the crazy schedule.

I remember back in June when he indicated the turnaround time would be "over the weekend" and everyone marveled at his promptness.

When I ran MAP, I never listed anything until it was actually in my hands. Sometimes the suspense killed me keeping quiet, but I sure didn't want anyone else sharing in the suspense! That's a great way to tick people off, and I think Randaleem has succeeded in that avenue.

I regret having gotten involved with the guy. In case anyone is wondering, several months ago I told him to simply forget about any royalties, etc., since I never wanted him to contact me again.

Thomas Henry

EdisonRex · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject:

Supposedly I am still in for one or two of these boards! Given that it has been since like what, June or May or something since I naively ordered them...

Randal doesn't strike me as a hothead, or even as a criminal. He strikes me as a loser, a good talker who seems to know his shit, based on traceable knowledge which he doesn't seem to know people know already.

It's almost sad, except that he's dragging people around.

I am going to go ahead and continue my order, whenever it is fulfilled (I honestly could care less about it), so I can post stuff in his thread when I get the board, assuming he figures out how to get a shipment to the UK.

I am wondering if this guy isn't like the biggest bullshit artist on the forums here. Heavy on the bullshit, at least.

Scott Stites · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject:

Back when he was trying to get me to send him the Klee files, he was offering to manufacture the boards on his CNC for a "cheaper" price (though I didn't even know how much the boards would have cost through Express PCB at the time, much less him).

I can't imagine there is a board house anywhere that would provide such exceedingly crappy service as to have things "in transit" for months at a time. I can only imagine the snafu may have something to do with his homemade board fabrication. I thought to ask him what board house it was, so they could be avoided at all costs. If it is a board house, that information would be more helpful than anything he's posted yet, IMO.

elektro80 · Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject:

His promise/announcement way back was that at the time of delivery of the QFG boards he would bring his new company website online and then a whole bunch of products would be announced. The URL is? I forgot it. Last time I checked there was nothing there.

I don´t think we should beat the crap out of him. We´ve already established the fact that whatever he is up to isn´t a part of the "official electro-music.com projects." I guess that will do for now.

fonik · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject:

EdisonRex · Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject:

yusynth · Joined: Nov 24, 2005 Posts: 1314 Location: France

Yes 3 months is an incredible delay. I recently had a small run of boards (25) made of my yusynth Fixed Filter Bank pcb and it took exactly 15 days between the moment I placed the order and the moment I received them from the PCB shop.

fonik · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:21 am Post subject:

don't get me wrong. i totaly agree (in the past i personally decided to take money not before the boards arrived and at least one got populated and tested). the community will be wise enough to judge his practices anyway... and still no answer to bill's note. Shocked

blue hell · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:30 am Post subject:

EdisonRex · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject:

State Machine · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject:

EdisonRex · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject:

State Machine · Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:

Scott Stites · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:12 am Post subject:

The positive thinking paid off - he either doesn't have the flu or got over it well enough to post.

http://electro-music.com/forum/topic-21023-0.html&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

Dan Lavin · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject:

This is quite ugly. Having been involved with customer service for more years than I care to quote, one of the top rules is "do not leave your customer in the dark." If one is having issues, one should let the group know what those issues are. Perhaps Randal's vendor is not keeping him informed and he is just paroting what he's hearing from them. Lack of experience with customer service, I'm guessing.

One of the things I've learned doing business with the Chinese, they can and will pull the plug on supplying product for whatever reason they feel. I hope Randal didn't piss anyone at his supplier off (imagine that?!) because he may have been cut off and now he has to scramble to recover.

I just can't think of too many scenarios that would take a simple board like this, this long to do!

Perhaps if he does not offer a reply in the next day, I could offer my services to deal with his vendor? I do not have a board in this buy, but this activity drags the whole forum down.

blue hell · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject:

v-un-v · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:

blue hell · Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject:

Well, I posted it as an open question, but I do feel that the "forum" does have a responsibility here. Not as in that we are responsible for Randal's acts, but that we are responsible for trying to resolve conflicts between people participating here.

When people have made payments to Randal that would make the situation much more serious than when no one actually sent money. And so I think we have to find out about that, but I do not know what would be the best way to do so.