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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject:
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This one can hardly be bad???
The Amazing New VA1
Developed using Kurzweil's newest proprietary DSP technology, the 61 note VA1 is the ultimate high-performance analog modeling synth. Continuing Kurzweil's tradition of excellence and innovation in synthesis, the VA1 employs patented "Power Shaped Oscillators" to generate classic analog-style waveforms which can be smoothly "shaped" from one into another, without the use of cross-fades. Presets include everything from classic analog emulations to sounds which are truly ground-breaking. The VA1 combines a vast array of real-time DSP processing with flexible FM and sync capabilities, providing a wide spectrum of sonic possibilities. Dual multi-mode 4-pole resonant filters, 3 LFOs, 2 ASRs, and 2 extremely fast ADSR envelopes are just a few of the sound-sculpting tools available. The VA1 offers 16 voices of polyphony, 7 simultaneous sound-sources per voice, and 4 part multitimbral capability. Each multitimbral part has its own effects (based on our acclaimed KDFX and KSP8 processors) and its own independent arpeggiator.
With 59 knobs, and 108 buttons, the VA1's user interface is both precise and intuitive, providing instant access to nearly all synth parameters. The VA1 offers an unprecedented amount of performance control as well, with pitchwheel, modwheel, joystick, and inputs for 4 switch pedals, 2 CC pedals, breath controller and Kurzweil's exclusive ribbon controller, all of which are assignable in the VA1's 6x46 modulation matrix. The LFOs, arpeggiators, portamento and effects can all be easily synced to MIDI clock and/or each other. External signals can be processed in the VA1Õs oscillator and filter sections, or through its built-in 48-band vocoder. Stereo inputs with Neutrik 'combo jacks', and a stereo mic pre-amp with phantom power give the VA1 a unique edge in both live performance and studio settings, allowing quick '1-step' vocal processing with superb sound quality. The audio outputs are equally impressive, with 4 1/4" balanced analog outs employing Kurzweil's patented circuitry, standard headphone jack (with independent headphone monitoring), and an optical port with up to 8 channels of 24-bit digital audio.
The VA1 is the only synth, 'virtual analog' or otherwise, to offer such a comprehensive set of highly sought-after features, and truly follows in the footsteps of Kurzweil's renowned K Series synthesizers. With an elegant voice design, abundant DSP power, a sleek interface, and striking sound quality, the VA1 delivers the future of synthesis. ItÕs been done before. Now it's been done right.
Physical Specifications
Improved Synth-Style Action: 61 velocity and aftertouch sensitive keys
59 Knobs: 11 detented 'selection' knobs and 47 smooth, endless encoders provide both instant access and precise, real time control over a wide array of parameters.
108 Buttons: Virtually eliminate the need for multiple button-presses and having to page through endless menus.
Assignable Controllers: Equipped with pitchwheel, modwheel, and a joystick, as well as inputs for ribbon, breath controller, 4 switch pedals, and 2 CC pedals, the VA1 offers an unprecedented amount of performance control.
Internal Power Supply
Smart Media Slot: For quick external storage of programs and easy OS updates 2 line x 16 character backlit LCD display.
Dimensions: 40.25" W x 3.7" H x 14.8" D Weight: 27.5 lbs.
Synth Specifications
16 Polyphonic Voices
4 Part Multitimbral Capability
Sound Generation: Each voice has 7 sound sources Ð 3 oscillators, 2 'Processors', Noise, and External. All 7 sources can be used simultaneously without reducing polyphony. Power Shaped Oscillators: Employing Kurzweil's latest DSP innovations, the VA1's oscillators generate analog-style waveforms which can be smoothly transformed from one into another, without the use of cross-fades. Traditional waveforms such as sine, square, saw, triangle, and variable pulse are available as well.
Processors: Using a versatile selection of DSP algorithms, each 'Processor' can provide functions like 'sample and hold', distortion, and ringmod. The processors can also serve as sub-oscillators.
FM and Sync: The VA1's FM synthesis capabilities are powerful and flexible, with a number of choices available for inputs and destinations. Each of the oscillators can be synced to a number of sources.
Deform Section: Located just before the filters in the signal path, the Deform section provides an additional block of real-time processing. Ringmod, Shapers, and a variety of digital distortion algs can be selected.
Filters: The VA1's dual filters can be arranged in series or parallel configuration and offer a broad selection of filter types. Minimoog style 4 pole resonant lo-pass with feedback, 2 and 4 pole lo-pass and hi-pass, bandpass, and notch are among the many available filter algorithms.
LFOs and Envelopes: 3 LFOs (1 local, 2 global) each with a range of up to 50hz, 2 lightning-fast ADSR envelopes, 2 standard ASRs.
Modulation Matrix: With 6 inputs (3 assignable) for each of the 46 possible destinations, the VA1 provides unmatched programming flexibility.
Arpeggiator: The VA1 features 4 independent simultaneous arpeggiators, one for each of its 4 multitimbral parts.
Effects: With 4 simultaneous effects available, one for each of the VA1's 4 multitimbral parts, the effects section features a varied collection of presets taken from our award-winning KDFX (for K2500 and 2600) and KSP8 processors. The effects presets are fully programmable and can be assigned real-time controllers through the VA1's modulation matrix.
MIDI Sync: Portamento, LFOs, arpeggiators, and envelope triggers, as well as many of the time-based effects (delay, flange, etc.) can easily be synced to MIDI and/or each other.
Vocoder: The 48 band vocoder can use external inputs for both carrier and modulator in addition to the VA1's internally generated sound sources.
I/O
Inputs: The VA1 comes equipped with 2 Neutrik "combo jacks" (both 1/4" and XLR) for balanced or unbalanced signals.
Pre-amp: With the inclusion of a stereo mic pre-amp and phantom power, the VA1 offers the most complete capabilities for vocoding and the processing of external audio.
Analog Outputs: 4 balanced 1/4" jacks, using patented Kurzweil circuitry, 1 stereo headphone jack.
24-Bit Digital Output: Optical port selectable as ADAT (8 channels) or S/P DIF format.
http://www.kurzweil.dk/product_va1.html _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:30 pm Post subject:
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Nah... I guess I want some secondhand Nord Modulars and a G2.. sigh... _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:36 pm Post subject:
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I know... I remember that post... hmm.. but this pix is larger.. right??
Sure looks nice. Sigh... _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 3:47 pm Post subject:
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Yes, but all that glitters is not gold. Reminds me of the Alesis Andromedia, but doen't look as nice, and that one is really analog, I think.
Meanwhile, I wait patiently for a new G2. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:39 pm Post subject:
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Seems to me that virtual analog has been done to death.
Is there anything new here? |
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elektro80
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 4:43 pm Post subject:
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I guess we have to wait for Sound On Sound to tell us if this one stinks or not. I guess this one is using the Kurzweil VAST tech? And Kurzweil makes decent gear too? It can hardly be bad? VA is anyway the new way to do things.. Analog is pretty much dead. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Seems to me that virtual analog has been done to death.
Is there anything new here? |
i agree.. maybe synths have been done to death in general
it's had to compete with these software samplers which stream huge samples from disk _________________ Spiral Recordings Last edited by paul e. on Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:26 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 9:21 pm Post subject:
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Samples? Like the Nord Electro? But that is something else? Not?
What is the alternative to VA? 12 bit digital synths? VA does not mean much more than that the vendor has spent some efforts in order to make the digital synth sound decent.
The latest Kurt is probably a modern take on the VAST engine and with a gui that is fairly traditional. By traditional I mean like the Odyssey and that kind of instrument. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:45 am Post subject:
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Speaking of Kurzweil...has anyone here tried the K2661? I have been thinking about replacing my K2000. The Kurzweil distribution situation is awful in Finland, so I can't get a K2661 for testing myself. _________________ Ozone Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:18 am Post subject:
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| I love virtual analog. It's just that I think there are already many fine VA synths out there. Some, like the Ion, very inexpensive. Any new, relatively expensive product being introduced now has got to have something unique about it. Maybe just better sound quality, that remains to be seen. I suppose you can always improve things - that's what I want to see. Not more of the same thing with a slightly different look. I don't think samples or softsynths are a replacement for VA. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:28 am Post subject:
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The Kurt situation is damned annoying in Norway too. Supposedly all this is to change ( soon? ): http://www.kurzweil.dk/welcome_select.html _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:45 am Post subject:
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| egw wrote: | | Not more of the same thing with a slightly different look. |
Most of the modern VAs I have tried all have different personalities. Some show obvious computing resource management issues, others do not show this at all. Some devices obviously are better at copying various old synths soundwise and featurewise.. and also adding new functions and synthesis methods. This is nice. I like the new trend. They are getting really better at designing interfaces too. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | | Analog is pretty much dead |
Ok, I'm not a gear guy. I've already made my point about my love of analog on the Circle Mix thread. And really to a large extent, I don't care what it is or how it works as long as I can get a sound out of it.
I'm probably interpreting this comment in the wrong context. Maybe not. But has EVERYBODY given up on analog? Synths or otherwise?
Just fascinated and curious. I'll leave it there, otherwise I might launch into a manifesto colored with all manner of psychological esoterica.  _________________ Que la musique sonne - Edgard Varese
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:45 pm Post subject:
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| egw wrote: | | I don't think samples or softsynths are a replacement for VA. |
no i agree..technically they are not a replacement
but for most people they do suffice..
unless one is a hardcore synthesist [like stein ;] ] who needs a modulation matrix or complex filtering, softsynths and really large samples do replace hard ware synths [va or analog] for most people...
so ,what i meant was..maybe hardware synths in general have seen their day in the marketplace
i.e. maybe no one will actually buy this new kurzweil synth _________________ Spiral Recordings |
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:11 pm Post subject:
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i.e. maybe no one will actually buy this new kurzweil synth |
I do not think so They'll find some die-hard(ware) synthesist
| sudden wrote: | | maybe hardware synths in general have seen their day in the marketplace | I am not sure about hardware synths but hardware samplers are a thing of the past  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:54 pm Post subject:
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I'm afraid they are a big part of the problem.  _________________ Ozone Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:02 pm Post subject:
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Uhhhh....
it is completely impossible to get your hands on any new Kurt device here in Norway. You can buy one.. but you have to pay in advance and wait for like forever. If you show up in a musicshop with a Kurt thingie people will point at you and laugh.. hystericallly.. Obviously buying a Kurzweil instrument in Norway is THE most stupid thing to do.. hmm.. ahh.. right.. I can think of at least ONE thing which is far more stupid.. so ... buying a Kurzweil.. is the SECOND most stupid thing to do.. hmmm.. I can think of ... OK:. buying a Kurzweil is rated third on the stupid list..
making peace in the Middle East and having quality time with reindeer is MORE stupid than buying a Kurzweil.  _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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