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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:21 pm Post subject:
Be it known that the Fonik Conventions have been posted in the TH Forum on this date, 2007 Anno Domini Lorem Ipsum and Toot Sweet, to boot. _________________ My Site
At once, or right away, is the literal translation of this French phrase. This is very often written incorrectly as tout suite. The English have never been comfortable with adopting French terms into English and, compared with Latin phrases say, there aren't as many as we might expect considering how close the two countries are geographically. This ambivalence, and the fact that most English can't actually speak French or even make a decent stab at pronouncing French terms, is the source of the attempts to poke fun at the French by deliberately mispronouncing those French phrases that have made it into English - in this case as toot sweet. This teasing dates back to the First World War. For example:
Arthur Empey, in Over the top, 1917 - "'Toots Sweet.' Tommy's French for 'hurry up', 'look smart'.
Punch, 1917 - Tommy (to inquisitive French children): "Nah, then, alley toot sweet, an' the tooter the sweeter."
tout de suiteThe 1968 film Chitty Chitty Bang Bang included a song call Toot Sweets. This lead to the marketing of confectionery with the same name, in the form of sugar whistles.
The phrase excuse my French takes this a step further in implying that speaking French is inherently embarrassing. More recently, this phenomenon has been made fun of in the many comic mistranslations of French phrases put into the mouth of Del Boy (David Jason) in John Sullivan's comedy Only Fools and Horses. For example, mange tout - used by Del Boy to mean 'my pleasure' and creme de la menthe - 'the very best'.
In America of course the souring of governmental relations over the disagreement in policy regarding the second Gulf War was the root cause of a virtual boycott in the USA of all things French. Many people there adopted a distaste for even speaking the word french, which resulted in the renaming of french fries (which all right-minded people in any case know are called chips) as freedom fries.
Joined: Dec 23, 2005 Posts: 4127 Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject:
There, see? See what happens when countries don't let themselves be bullied? Let that be a warning, or we'll pull out the liberty ovens and patriot Vikings! _________________ My Site
Joined: Dec 23, 2005 Posts: 4127 Location: Mount Hope, KS USA
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject:
No, in that case "freedom's just another word for anything that's french", the unreleased Joplin tapes, circa early 1972. It's where all these Einsteins got the idea.
I won't even ask if Tim wisely used a freedom letter if things progressed past the freedom kiss. Oooooh, I'm bad....... _________________ My Site
right ... 1972 sounds as if I did have a fair chance to read up ... apparently I didn't ... w22222222222222222 damn, tobacco in the 22222222 key ... anyway, I didn't .. should sleep I guess ... jokes are getting too complex WTF
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